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同人女的MGS2笔记 英文

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发表于 2009-6-12 16:18:39 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
向同人女学习

有很多从没发现的细节

http://firefly99.livejournal.com/322358.html#cutid1

这是第一部分
点击右箭头 总共有五个部分
 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-15 13:02:55 | 显示全部楼层
向同人女学习 我决定摘抄部分有趣的发现
抛砖引玉 吸引你去读其他的

Day 1

片头
The actors' names appear in a mixture of DNA nucleotides (for non-Patriot-affiliated characters' actors) and beeping bar codes (for Patriot-affiliated characters' actors).

纯属虚构
- Even in Substance, though, the first thing you see is a disclaimer, like at the start of books and at the end of movies, saying that all the characters are fictional and all resemblances to real people and organisations is coincidental. There is no legal obligation for the game to contain that notice; in fact, it's the only game in the series which does,.... , the effect is to remind the player that the game is fiction, and ... telling them – this is only a game.

油轮上的镇定剂
- The Pentazemin trick is a cute moment. Incidentally, when you're in third person view, the stage kind of bounces and rolls irritatingly, and the Pentazemin gets rid of that.

油轮电脑和太空漫游
- Not only that, but the name of the terminal is 'MONORITH'. So we've got Dave and Hal on board the Discovery using Monolith (allowing for Japanese l/r confusion). Then the great big ship sinks and we get the young couple Jack and Rose. Tee hee.

两部叉车
- Aha, the forklift truck you have to hide behind before boarding an elevator. The difference here is that you can't really hide behind the forklift, because the graphics are such that it isn't rendered as a cohesive block and so the guards can see through it. Kojima actually used the improvement in graphics to make fun of an aspect of the last game.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-15 13:50:00 | 显示全部楼层
Day 2
http://firefly99.livejournal.com/323066.html

得癌症的维纳斯
- Trivia - When the parrot says 'Venus in Cancer' it's actually saying something like 'the Venusian crab!' and it was a particularly bad mistranslation, because the parrot was intended to show (in this part) that where Otacon is an anime otaku, Emma is a sci-fi and toku(特摄) otaku. (EDIT: This is why Para-Medic, when talking to Snake about the crab, says 'not the Venusian kind'.) Emma also likes Policenauts, apparently. I WANT MY LOCALISATION.(04: 'the Venusian crab出自电影It Conquered the World)

背偷窥的女性死了么?
- Jennifer gets a bullet in the head and dies. Kojima rubs his hands and says "I hope you feel guilty for looking up her skirt now." Kojima games tend to star flirts and perverts... In this part, Kojima does his usual trick of giving the player a pretty woman to ogle like an object and flirt with for fanservice, but then he gives her a meaningless and sudden death which comes out of nowhere, and you realise her last moments were you knocking her out to look up her skirt. Again, it ties in with the whole 'don't hate the game, hate the player' thing Koji's trying to push on you - if you ignore Jennifer (like the game tries to make you), you have nothing to be guilty of.

同人女式的分析——雷电的作战服
Incidentally, the uniform thing's both more foreshadowing and yet another jab at Raiden's looks. Why would the uniform be too small for Raiden when Raiden's about average male height, a hint smaller than most of the guards? Answer - he was given a woman's uniform. Why would he be given a woman's uniform? Because Mr. X was only able to get hold of a woman's uniform. Why would Mr. X only be able to get hold of a woman's uniform? Because Mr. X isn't a man, she's a female Gurlukovich soldier, and she's giving away her uniform. But there's only one female Gurlukovich soldier, and that's, of course, who Mr. X turns out to be.)

又是2P手柄?
- The bridge between Shells 1 and 2 has some subtle previous-game references - you have to backtrack for a sniper rifle, and the easiest way to pass the area is by using the second controller (here to rotate the flag). No-one gives you any help with the flag, so that part's more of an Easter Egg to people who know what's going on.

弥母课开始了!
- "A legend is nothing but fiction. Someone tells it, someone else remembers, everybody passes it on." There you've got the introduction to the meme theory in this game.

刺猬头雷电(有图么?)
- Hahahaha, when Raiden steps on the electric floor and comes away, his hair stands up at the back for a good thirty seconds.

合金装备不是分裂细胞
- I love that little rubber duck at the end of the swimming section. In no other game would you do a swim through the twisted, flooded wreckage of a bombed building looking for a way to rescue the President of the United States, and, at the end of your long and difficult swim, find a duck. That duck is the reason Metal Gear isn't Splinter Cell or Syphon Filter. That duck, to me, is "Metal Gear".

最终幻想7 vs 合金装备2
- A minor personal narm moment is when Snake says 'On that day, two years ago' and I flash straight back to Nibelheim. Well, you have got a large group of clones gathering together for no readily apparent reason until it's all explained in the big twist; a blond guy who's confused, a soldier, and has a pretty dark-haired girl who'll do anything for him except tell the truth; a pretty, upbeat pink-wearing girl with light brown hair who gets stabbed through the middle by an evil guy with long hair who keeps coming back from the dead, and she's 'buried' in water... I could go on.

空房子里的梦境
- Ah, the empty room. The symbolism there is unbelievable and I won't talk about it. I'm going to link you to insertcredit.com's far more interesting article on what the 'empty room' means. Go read it, it's good.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-15 14:05:28 | 显示全部楼层
Day 3
http://firefly99.livejournal.com/323081.html

奥塔肯的大学?
- More interestingly, the Colonel gives us a candidate for Otacon's possible university: '[Emma] followed in her brother's footsteps and enrolled in Oxford.' We know Otacon has family in England (well, Julie), so that would make sense.

VR?聊胜于无!(带图)
-(雷电狙击保护浮桥上的艾玛之前说) "I've faced a similar situation in Advanced Mode Level 4 VR Training with the PSG-1!" Raiden says, expecting Snake to be terribly impressed. Because I love you, I went and took screenshots of that level:




So yeah, you've got a central, low-down point and soldiers walking around on a frame. It is a similar situation.
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发表于 2009-6-15 14:47:24 | 显示全部楼层
从另一个视点看MGS啊~
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发表于 2009-6-15 14:56:56 | 显示全部楼层
Jennifer死了么?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-15 15:44:13 | 显示全部楼层
Day 5
http://firefly99.livejournal.com/324674.html

锯齿电刑
The second you see that eerie pixellated image of the torture table lights, and hear your captors discussing not what they should do with you (like in the last game) but how you mean nothing and don't exist (another way of making You The Player feel small), you know that you're down the Kojima rabbit hole.

好莱坞电影
- And here Kojima hits us with the Meta Bat. 'They showed us Hollywood action movies...the kind with macho guys and big guns'. What is MGS if not an attempt to make a Hollywood action movie into a game? What is Kojima if not a fan of Hollywood action movies? Is the media training us into the image of killers? Is Kojima? By becoming a fan wanting to emulate Snake's desirable traits, are we also going to start emulating his undesirable traits? Do we take fantasy too far? Dear god, Kojima, you hate us. We get it.

衔尾蛇
- The pause menu adds to the 'swallowed' feel, showing you an old drawing of a world-turtle (Arsenal) supported by elephants (RAYs) and surrounded by an ouroboros (Solidus, or maybe the 'legend' of Snake).

雷电 vs 美玲
Raiden shoots, and rolls, and slashes his sword, and fires missile after missile, but he's not really doing it any more than Mei Ling was really blowing kisses or pretending to be an aeroplane, any more than Naomi was looking up vital information on her computer. They were performing for fanservice. And so we know that Raiden himself is 'performing'.

起伏的臀部
-(天狗战中) I notice if you knock Snake out, as he breathes in his sleep, his ass undulates. I just can't describe it. It's so weird and yet so enthralling.

说理大师的模仿秀
- The plaque at the bottom of the George Washington statue shows George kneeling in the exact same pose Solidus adopts at the end.
华盛顿雕像底部右侧的名牌(图片by04)


最慎人的片尾曲
- ...and then there's Can't Say Goodbye To Yesterday, the creepiest ending song ever.

In the ending, Raiden talks about moving on; Snake tells him to move on ('a new name'). He and Rose look at each other and agree to move on. And then the song starts, and it sings about

I can't say good-bye to yesterday, my friend,
I keep holding on 'til the end
Out of the darkness there is no other way
than the light leading to yesterday

It's there that I'll find
Inner peace not war
and dreams that I let slip away
I'll find the joyfulness I'm looking for
way back in yesterday


. . . . . . . ohmy

It's this beautiful song and it really sums up Raiden as a character, but it suggests that Raiden's going back to LIVING IN DENIAL and argh argh argh (SECRET - THIS GAME TERRIFIES ME MORE THAN SH2 AND THIS IS WHY) and I think that since Kojima helped write the words that this is totally, totally intentional.

完
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-15 15:45:23 | 显示全部楼层
[quote=metalgearray;546614]从另一个视点看MGS啊~[/quote]
其实正统而硬派的深入分析为多
剩下的也是非常有爱有理论根据的同人yy
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-15 16:05:20 | 显示全部楼层
补充

snake天狗战的武器
It seems to be dictated by chance what weapon Snake uses in the first Tengu battle - the USP or the M4. Strangely, his performance doesn't seem to be affected, as he can still shoot at machine-gun speeds with a handgun. (How does he do this? Possibly magic.)
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发表于 2009-6-15 17:09:47 | 显示全部楼层
VR那个还有结合Meling的拍照模式场景分析让我佩服的五体投地.....

印象里MGS2提及的VR任务还不止那么一个,回头看看去....

另外没看懂的一点:Jennifer怎么死的?
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发表于 2009-6-15 18:00:32 | 显示全部楼层
Jenniferわ誰だ!
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发表于 2009-6-15 19:01:29 | 显示全部楼层
洋洋洒洒很多字啊,收藏了慢慢欣赏,谢谢04推荐!

作者头像是一大亮点,很合乎我现在对小岛的评价。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-16 08:43:22 | 显示全部楼层
[quote=Kissdreams;546632]VR那个还有结合Meling的拍照模式场景分析让我佩服的五体投地.....

印象里MGS2提及的VR任务还不止那么一个,回头看看去....

另外没看懂的一点:Jennifer怎么死的?[/quote]
1. 拍照的分析早在 版图之外 里就有了,你是忘了 还是没看完= =

不过狙击的vr考证实在令人佩服(pf小岛和作者)

2. 有可能是最后忍者挡子弹时 误伤的
但是没有视频 只是记忆
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发表于 2009-6-16 08:58:19 | 显示全部楼层
[quote=0479;546797]1. 拍照的分析早在 版图之外 里就有了,你是忘了 还是没看完= =

不过狙击的vr考证实在令人佩服(pf小岛和作者)

2. 有可能是最后忍者挡子弹时 误伤的
但是没有视频 只是记忆[/quote]
当时有一位女人质中枪,叫了一声,然后倒下,并且她身边的人也倒下,估计也是中枪了。
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