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蛇湯翻譯文*流言*Solid Snake的真名指的是David Hayter。事實*並非如此。

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发表于 2010-9-28 12:01:30 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Myth:
流言:

Solid Snake's real name is a reference to David Hayter.
Solid Snake的真名指的是David Hayter。

Fact: It's not.
事實:並非如此。

By Ravi Singh
Posted on September 27, 2010

There are three instances where Snake's name is revealed as "David"--the first two being the canon and alternative endings to Metal Gear Solid and the final instance in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots when Snake meets up with Big Momma. It is often assumed that the name was chosen on purpose during the development of Metal Gear Solid as a reference to American voice-actor David Hayter.

Snake的名字顯示為David的時刻共有三個:前兩個來自Metal Gear Solid的兩個結局,最後一個則來自Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots中Snake遇到Big Momma 的最後一刻。一般認為這個名字是在Metal Gear Solid的開發過程中被特意選來指代美國聲優David Hayter的。

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For those who have made this assumption I ask, how so? The Japanese script for Metal Gear Solid and Guns of the Patriots also establish Snake's name is David--NOT Akio, the Japanese voice actor for Solid Snake. The voice overs for the Japanese version were completed prior to the western versions. In fact, the English script was already completed before David Hayter was hired. He even planned on using a pseudonym to avoid union troubles like most of the other voice actors did and is credited as "Sean Barker" in a few of the demo releases. If none of this is enough to destroy your so-called theory, Hayter cleared the issue up himself during an interview:

對於那些做出這個假設的人,我想問:爲什麽?即使是Metal Gear Solid和Guns of the Prtriots的日文劇本也將Snake的名字定為David而非Akio:那位日版Solid Snake聲優的名字。何況日版的配音工作遠在西方版本之前就完成了。實際上,英文文本早在雇傭David Hayter之前就已經完成了。他甚至考慮用藝名來避免一些不必要的麻煩(就像許多其他聲優們所做的那樣),於是在很多開發演示版本中,我們看到他的名字顯示為“Sean Barker”。如果這些都不足以擊潰這些人那所謂的理論,Hayter在一次採訪中親自把這件事解釋清楚了。

"eople always ask me if the character or the name were modeled after me, but it was all coincidence. We just got to that line toward the end of recording the first game, and we all laughed. In fact, I am still laughing to this day. Okay… Now I’ve stopped. Ahem."
- David Hayter, 2003

“人們總是問我這個角色或者他的名字是不是以我為模特打造的,這完全是個巧合。我們直到第一個遊戲配音快結束才碰到那句對白,然後我們都笑了。事實上,直到今天我還想笑。好吧,我不笑了,啊哈。”
- David Hayter, 2003

The name "David" was chosen to make a couple of other references though. The name is clearly a nod to the epic and the seemingly-fucking-long-but-enjoyable Stanley Kubrick film 2001: A Space Odyssey. In it, the supercomputer HAL 9000 tries to fuck over the humans but is defeated when Dave Bowman finds a screwdriver. All of this during a trip to Jupiter.

“David”這個名字同時蘊含許多其他意指。這個名字無疑是對那史詩般的(以及雖然長的像臭婆娘的裹腳布卻意外的不臭反而很令人享受的)Stanley Kubrick的電影《2001:A Space Odyssey》的致敬。在這部電影中,超級電腦HAL 9000想要毀滅所有人,但卻被Dave Bowman找到的一個螺絲刀擊敗了。這一切發生在去木星的路上。

Snake : My real name is David, Otacon.
Snake:我的真名是David,Otacon。
Otacon : I'm Hal, Dave.
Otacon:我叫Hal,Dave。
Snake : Oh, that's right... Hal. Hal and Dave? That's a good one.
Snake:哦,對了。Hal,Hal和Dave。聽起來不錯。
Both: Ha ha ha ha ha...
兩人:哈哈哈哈= =
Snake: Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter...
Snake:也許我們應該一起去趟木星。

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HAHAHA GET IT SNAKE? Hey, by the way, is that a screwdriver in your pocket or are you happy to get Stealth Camo?
哈哈明白了麽Snake?對了,你口袋裏面是一把螺絲刀,還是你想要隱形迷彩?    

So... get it? "Hal and Dave?" Yeah. I'm sure you laugh-out-loud'ed just right now just like Otacon and Snake do. What is interesting is that in the canon ending where Snake saves Meryl, you are still given Snake's real name in the end. Meryl, too, decides to call Snake "Dave" as opposed to "David," despite the lack of any sort of reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

這回明白了吧?“Hal和Dave?”對了。我相信你剛才一定像Otacon和Snake那樣笑的很大聲。有趣的是在Snake救了Meryl的完美結局的最後,你仍能看到Snake的真名。儘管沒有明顯指向“2001:A Space Odyssey”,Meryl同樣決定叫Snake“Dave”而不是“David”。

Meryl : So...where to, Snake?
Meryl:那麼,我們去哪兒,Snake?
Snake : David. My name is David...
Snake:David。我的名字是Davdi。
Meryl : Okay, so where to, Dave?
Meryl:好的,那麼去哪兒,Dave?    

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Where to? My bed. Now.去哪兒?當然是我的床上XD


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In Policenauts, "Dave" is a burger eating pacifist and "Meryl" actually has tits.
在Policenauts中,“Dave”是一個吃漢堡的和平主義者,而"Meryl”真的有[La Li Lu Le Lo]。

This isn't a misstep, it's actually yet another reference. Despite what it may seem like these days, Kojima has worked on other games besides Metal Gear. The name and pretty much the entire character "Meryl Silverburgh" itself initially appears in the game Policenauts. In the very same game, there is a character who is pretty much Meryl's co-worker and biggest admirer named Dave Forrest. Thus, "Meryl and Dave."

這可不是什麽口誤,而是另一層引用。儘管現在看起來Kojima只做MGS,他確實曾經做過許多Metal Gear之外的遊戲。不僅名字,即使整個人格方面“Meryl Silverburgh”都是在遊戲Policenauts中首次出現的。在這個遊戲中同樣有一個角色(不僅是Meryl的同伴,更是她的最狂熱崇拜者)名叫Dave Forrest。於是我們有了“Meryl與Dave”。

David Hayter undoubtedly defines the Solid Snake character through his voice acting performances in the western versions of the Metal Gear Solid games. Without his voice, Solid Snake simply isn't Solid Snake in the 3D titles. Despite this, it was not him that Solid Snake was named after. It was instead a character from a movie Hideo Kojima loved and a character from one of his own greatest works.

David Hayter無疑以其在西方版本的Metal Gear Solid遊戲中的聲音表演定義了Solid Snake的性格。沒有了他的聲音,Solid Snake絕不能取得他在這個3D標題遊戲中的性格立體感。儘管如此,Solid Snake並非以他命名。他來自Hideo Kojima所喜愛的一部片子以及他自己一部最偉大的作品中的這兩個角色。

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发表于 2010-9-28 12:59:53 | 显示全部楼层
我想说两句话...
1.那张基情的镜头果然出现了...
2.lelelulelo(-_-|||)
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发表于 2010-9-28 13:01:25 | 显示全部楼层
RED出手了!不凡不俗不简单!
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发表于 2010-9-28 13:04:57 | 显示全部楼层
然后变成了lalelulelo么 XD
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-9-28 13:08:52 | 显示全部楼层
翻譯出來就不和諧了。
偶是紳士XD
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发表于 2010-9-28 13:12:17 | 显示全部楼层
引用第4楼hongyun198于2010-9-28 13:08发表的 :
翻譯出來就不和諧了。
偶是紳士XD

 不欺负你粗心了
慢着...你怎么又改回去了...
加精了
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-9-28 13:19:08 | 显示全部楼层

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慚愧慚愧。而且當時忘記了到底是lalelulelo還是啥。。。
還是google的。。。
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发表于 2010-9-28 13:21:19 | 显示全部楼层

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引用第6楼hongyun198于2010-9-28 13:19发表的 回 5楼(brightxy) 的帖子 :
慚愧慚愧。而且當時忘記了到底是lalelulelo還是啥。。。
還是google的。。。

  切腹去吧,孩子
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发表于 2010-9-28 14:41:15 | 显示全部楼层
不错不错,可以替很多战友澄清误解。话说david hayter和snake重名这事真的比较巧合,这就是猿粪啊

楼主出手不凡,可悲的是还是被bxy给鄙视了。。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-9-28 14:44:15 | 显示全部楼层

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猿糞原來就是這麼來的。。。
我天天鄙視他,我不吃虧
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发表于 2010-9-28 14:51:06 | 显示全部楼层
支持下
不过没啥新内容啊

dave就是david的昵称吧 顺便同时暗指了宇宙骑警和太空漫游

而且meryl在mgs1结尾穿的甲克
就和宇宙骑警中dave穿的几乎一样
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-9-28 14:53:02 | 显示全部楼层

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04觀察的很細啊。。。
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发表于 2010-9-28 21:15:55 | 显示全部楼层
引用第8楼Ray于2010-9-28 14:41发表的 :
不错不错,可以替很多战友澄清误解。话说david hayter和snake重名这事真的比较巧合,这就是猿粪啊

楼主出手不凡,可悲的是还是被bxy给鄙视了。。。。

纯属恶搞报复~咩哈哈哈
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发表于 2010-9-29 22:02:25 | 显示全部楼层
原来和《2001:太空漫游》有关啊!我一直理解为Dave是David的爱称,没想到Otacon也这样叫Snake......
谢谢RED!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-9-29 22:52:20 | 显示全部楼层

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LS客氣了,一時手賤,看KD沒翻過就順手了,有用就好XD
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发表于 2010-10-2 00:57:19 | 显示全部楼层
在各种读着拗口以及笑点不够地道的问题之下……

我也决定出手了:http://hi.baidu.com/kissdreams/b ... 88ead18db10d8c.html

PS-还是要感谢LZ翻译,有些句子的语言组织给了我不少参考。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-2 01:56:26 | 显示全部楼层

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KD忙完了啊。。。恭喜恭喜。。。
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发表于 2011-6-2 19:39:45 | 显示全部楼层
David Hayter是snake的声优
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发表于 2012-9-29 11:01:41 | 显示全部楼层
ahem是咳嗽不是啊哈哦,还有就是lalilulelo不是lalelulelo
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