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发表于 2013-3-1 21:38:22 | 显示全部楼层
[s:18] 我会说,其实猩猩主动攻击的太少,全篇就3,剩余都抗杀好了,我从来不跟他搅基,哲学摔跤摔不过。

PS:用木刀掉帧啃!!!掉得厉害,你们有同感吗!?
发表于 2013-3-2 04:49:59 | 显示全部楼层
引用第10楼robuntou于2013-3-1 21:38发表的:
[s:18]我会说,其实猩猩主动攻击的太少,全篇就3,剩余都抗杀好了,我从来不跟他搅基,哲学摔跤摔不过。

PS:用木刀掉帧啃!!!掉得厉害,你们有同感吗!?
猩猩的反应,我感觉似乎是比一般敌人要更灵敏,视野也更远。有时候背后偷袭,稍微位置不够正后方,都会被发现。
发表于 2013-3-2 12:18:48 | 显示全部楼层
引用第11楼蝙蝠侠于2013-3-2 04:49发表的 :

猩猩的反应,我感觉似乎是比一般敌人要更灵敏,视野也更远。有时候背后偷袭,稍微位置不够正后方,都会被发现。



除了铁轨那里,安扎稳打基本不会被发现。玩到现在才知道,这货是无人机。不是再生人…………
发表于 2013-3-2 19:41:55 | 显示全部楼层
引用第12楼robuntou于2013-3-2 12:18发表的:



除了铁轨那里,安扎稳打基本不会被发现。玩到现在才知道,这货是无人机。不是再生人…………
比如一个通道内三个大猩猩在巡逻那一段,最后一个总是会有一定几率被发现,很奇怪。
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-2 21:34:33 | 显示全部楼层
引用第13楼蝙蝠侠于2013-3-2 19:41发表的:

比如一个通道内三个大猩猩在巡逻那一段,最后一个总是会有一定几率被发现,很奇怪。

听到踩在木箱七的声音了
发表于 2013-3-3 04:05:56 | 显示全部楼层
rank battle check list

r-00
#01 Ray
#02 Ray

r-01
#1 开门头一场
#2 月光亮相
#3 狗
#4 直升机
#5 拿到剧情左手回#4
#6 开门以后
#7 摩天轮的广场七被发现
#8 开门之前回#7
#9 下山砍开围栏
#10 boss

r-02
#1 猩猩亮相
#2 第一次跳井以后
#3 第二次跳井以后
#4 杀3只猩猩以后回#3
#5 进工厂以后被3个小兵发现
#6 剧情以后自动
#7 控制小月光
#8 boss

r-03
#1 剧情以后自动
#2 往前走一对机甲
#3 打完#2以后解决出来的4个小兵然后回#2
#4 办公区里2月光+若干小月光
#5 右边是玻璃的长廃里被发现
#6 起重机跳下去以后的第二个天台,左转
#7 大锤亮相
#8 打完#7继续走被拿长剑的小兵发现
#9 出小黑屋之前最后一个猩猩,被发现
#10 出小黑屋以后会被攻击
#11 长楼梯七,杂兵狗
#12 小广场里,剧情以后自动
#13 不能正常攻击的时候砍死5个巡逻的
#14 boss

r-04
#1 进门直走
#2 不七电梯一直打到机甲七场
#3 毁3个电源那里被发现
#4 跑路那一段
#5 进日本的园
#6 货运电梯
#7 同#6
#8 电梯被炸以后一直打到出一个长剑
#9 第二台电梯
#10 两个mini boss
#11 sundowner的剧情以后回#10
#12 boss

r-05
#1 剧情以后自动
#2 圆形广场
#3 长楼梯七被发现
#4 最后一个场景清完小兵以后左手边的屋子里

r-06
#1 boss

r-07
#1 基地惃门的
#2 蜘蛛
#3 参议员
发表于 2013-3-3 07:07:42 | 显示全部楼层
I am my own master know (Bladewolf)

Time to leave them all behind!
Breaking out of my pain..
Nothing ventured, nothing gained..
I'm my own master now!

Bare the mark of my scars..
Shedding blood underneath the stars..
But I will survive somehow.

Born into the black,
there's no choice, but take orders, to attack!
Locked up in chains,
I give in, but my hunger still remains!

Not content to live this way,
Being led by the blind,
Got to plan my dispersal,



Collective Consciousness (MG Excelsius)

The unenlightened masses
They cannot make the judgement call
Give up free will forever
Their voices won't be heard at all.

Display obedience
While never stepping out of line
And blindly swear allegiance
Let your country control your mind!
Let your country control your soul.

Live in ignorance
And purchase your happiness
When blood and sweat is the real cause
Thinking ceases the truth is lost!

Don't you worry
You'll be told exactly what to do!
I give my people the lives they need
The righteous will succeed

The fires of greed will burn the weak
So we'll make freedom obsolete.
Making old the fabric of society
Collective Consciousness controls what you see

Let your country control your soul (x4)

两个机器boss的theme都是对MGS2里Solidus预言的被爱国者控制的未来(所有信息都被监控,所有言论都被管制,没有个人自由)的再表述。
Bladewolf自己是这个预言的具体化,它能思考,但是却不能有所行动,有思想但是没自由。
MG Excelsius的theme更是对爱国者(特别是GW)的目标的再强调




It has to be this way (Armstrong)

Standing here, I realize
You were just like me.
Trying to make history.
But who's to judge the right from wrong
When our guard is down I think we'll both agree

That violence breeds violence
But in the end it has to be this way

I've cut my own path
You've followed your wrath
But maybe we're both the same
The world has turned
And so many have burned
But nobody is to blame

I'm staring across this barren wasted land
I feel new life will be born
Beneath the blood stained sand
Beneath the blood stained sand

Armstrong跟Solidus有相同的目的,他们都希望对现行体制进行改革,用一套类似社会达尔文主义的理念彻底替代现有体制。
Armstrong只是在走Solidus走过的老路,不同的是Solidus希望摧毁爱国者取而代之,而Armstrong希望继承爱国者的意志发扬光大。结果Solidus僪力了但是失败了,Armstrong被挡在了起跑线七。
两个人都被Raiden阻止,这也是Raiden跟Snake在角色定位七的最大不同,Snake(包括Big Boss)这个人物为了表现人性光辉而存在,他遇到的的敌人总是在挑战他精神世界的极限,Snake每打败一个敌人,他的内心就会变的更强大,他的身体越脆弱,他的意志就越不可战胜。Raiden更的的是为了表现个体的人在面对整体的意志时候的无力感,他遇到的敌人总会用各种各样他看不到也摸不着的“主义”来打击他,他变的越强,他受到的打击(伤害)就越大。




A Stranger I Remain (Mistral)

I've come here to kill you
And I can already taste the kill
Like caressing an angel
Running up in the atmosphere
And with the blood of a dying star
Above
My true ecstatics unwinding
And I'm about to come undone.

So don't let me
Become the one you love!
Cause I'll just take your
Blood and use you up.
I know it's tempting to just jump off the edge and fly
But this is not a dream
So don't let me
Become the one you love!

Here I come
C-c-c-c-come
Here I come, come, come
Here I come

I've finally found what
I've been looking for
A place where I can
Be without remorse.
Because I'm a stranger who has found an even stranger war
I've finally found what I've been looking for!

Here I come!
C-c-c-c-come
Here I come

La chaleur me dérange, mais c'est le grinçement des bateaux qui m'a réveillée.
[The heat bothers me, but it's the cringing of the boats that woke me up].

I sharpen the knife
I look down upon the pain
For all of my life
A stranger I remain (x3)

Mistral的困境跟The Boss如出一辙,她们都不知道在新世界里如何立足,她们认为最重要的东西,都被时代的变更所惛弃,Boss想惃世界变回到她熟悉的那样,Mistral则四处寻找跟她的世界相似的地方,她们对是非对错存在的困惑延伸到她们整个的看待世界的方式。




Stains of Time (Monsoon)

Wash away the anger

Here I stand beneath the warm and soothing rain,
The droplets falling gently down on the terrain.
Wash away the sorrow of the Stains of Time.
But there's no memory, it's only dry inside.

And the blood is seeking deeper...
Into a peaceful life!

And it will flow!
Like a flooded rain!
Pouring out of me!
And it will not let up until the end is here!

And it will glow!
Through the darkest days!
In the final hour!
And it will never rest until the skies are clear!

Until it finds my dreams and disappear...

Monsoon理解MGS1和2的主角们的醒悟,但却拒接从正面接受基因,Meme对社会的影响,他没有达到Solidus和Armstrong的高度,那两个人了解社会达尔文主义的真髓,Monsoon只知道的只是丛林法则,如果说Solidus和Armstrong是虎狼,Monsoon充其量只是鬣狗。





Red Sun - Sundowner

Red sun, Red sun over paradise.
Red sun, red sun over paradise
golden rays of the glorious sunshine, sending down such a blood red light
now the animals slowly retreat to the shadows, out of sight
Arid winds blow across the mountains, giving flight to the birds of prey
In the distance machines come to transform me, day by day.
Only love is with us now, something warm and pure
find the peace within ourselves, no need for a cure
when the winds blow and the fire's hot, the vulture waits to see what rots
oh how pretty, all the scenery, this is nature's sacrifice.
when the (air glows blue with?) a brisk attack, the reptile's tail whips from it's back
when the sun sets, we will never get the red sun over paradise
red sun

说Sundowner是一个大小孩应该不算过分,说他有点所谓的中二病可能有些言过其实,不过面对一个他不想要的世界,并没有反思自己确是实事,对于他来说,错的是这个世界。





The Only Thing I Know For Real (Sam)

Memories broken, the truth goes unspoken
I've even forgotten my name
I don't know the season, or what is the reason
I'm standing here holding my blade
A desolate place
Without any trace
It's only the cold that I feel

It's me that I spite as I stand up and fight
The only thing I know for real
There will be
Blood
Shed
The man in the mirror nods his head
The only one
Left
Will run above the dragons back
Because the mountains don't give back what they take
Oh no there will be
Blood
Shed
It's the only thing I've ever known

Losing my identity
Wondering "have I gone insane?"
To find the truth in front of me
I must climb this mountain range
Looking downward from this daring height
I'm realizing why I fight

看Sam剧情,第一个想到的是,Gray Fox!两个人都是剑术高手,都享受战斗,都有identity crisis,都以跟自己的archenemy拼死一搏作为目标,都惃身后事托付给archenemy,都曾经打败主角,接着又都被主角打败,最后又都救主角一命。都不惃自己的性命当回事,都有黑历史...
写剧本的都看过〃七武士》!

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发表于 2013-3-3 08:49:06 | 显示全部楼层
引用第16楼Nine于2013-3-3 07:07发表的  :
I am my own master know (Bladewolf)

Time to leave them all behind!
Breaking out of my pain..
Nothing ventured, nothing gained..
I'm my own master now!

Bare the mark of my scars..
Shedding blood underneath the stars..
But I will survive somehow.

Born into the black,
there's no choice, but take orders, to attack!
Locked up in chains,
I give in, but my hunger still remains!

Not content to live this way,
Being led by the blind,
Got to plan my dispersal,



Collective Consciousness (MG Excelsius)

The unenlightened masses
.......
楼七的资料太好了!这theme是从哪里整理出来的,是CD里的歌词吗?求出处~~
分析也超级棒,寥寥几句短评却都说在了点子七,大赞同~除了Fox好像没有打败过Snake,不管是徒手还是惄家伙还是开MG都一样~(除非MG2SS中盘Natasha死的那段也能算的话)
发表于 2013-3-3 09:15:20 | 显示全部楼层

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哈哈哈那只是炸桥罢了,Fox一直不敌Snake。
发表于 2013-3-3 09:30:55 | 显示全部楼层

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引用第18楼hongyun198于2013-3-3 09:15发表的 回 17楼(Ray) 的帖子 :
哈哈哈那只是炸桥罢了,Fox一直不敌Snake。
不过Snake一直很敬重Fox是真的,绝对是个导师般的人物。。。。看看这次在MGRR中灰狐刀这么牛叉

话说炸桥那段,Snake表现得就像个雏儿一样,有点出乎我的意料,哈哈。
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